Tag: Trade

Can The Bulls Win A Lavine Trade?

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Ian Begley of SNY sports reported earlier that the Knicks and Nets have looked into the idea of trading for Zach Lavine if he were to become available. And while this may never happen, the idea of trading Lavine is an interesting one. It may or may not be the best direction for the Bulls, but as far as optics it is a likely no win situation. The Bulls 3 years ago were in a somewhat similar situation with Jimmy Butler.

On June 22, 2017 the Bulls traded 3 time All Star Jimmy Butler and their 2017 16th overall pick to the Timberwolves for their 2017 7th overall pick, Kris Dunn, and Zach Lavine. The value of Butler allowed the Bulls to move up 9 spots in 2017 draft while getting two former lottery picks Kris Dunn and Zach Lavine. At the time Jimmy Butler had two years remaining on his contract.

Zach Lavine, who so far has no All-Star appearances, also has 2 years left on his contract. Lavine’s contract is worth 18% of the current projected salary cap, Butler’s at the time was worth 19% of the salary cap. Both contracts were respectively on “bargain deals”, Butler more so than Lavine. Lavine a borderline All-Star is on a nice deal as well though. But clearly Butler is the better player, and would demand more in return. While there are two different front offices negotiating these deals in different markets, you can at least get an idea of what a player on Butler’s level will get you. And understand Lavine will likely get you less.

The new rumor of the Knicks and Nets brings an interesting perspective. The two respective teams are in two totally different situations, as one is rebuilding and the other when healthy is a top playoff team in their conference. The two teams give you an interesting perspective on what those two types of teams would be willing, and could offer.

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The Knicks are a rebuilding team. Draft pick wise, they have all their picks like most rebuilding teams do. And have either high lottery pick type players like RJ Barrett, or players like Mitchell Robinson who have exceeded their draft position. There are also players like Kevin Knox and Dennis Smith Jr who are former lottery picks still trying to find their way. A team like the Knicks is similar to a team like the Timberwolves who traded for Butler. A young team looking to find a more established player to put around their young core. Difference is though Lavine isn’t as good. Realistically players like Barrett and Robinson would be off limits. A rebuilding team is going to value their ymore controlled talented young players versus trading for a player like Lavine who can leave in 2 years and arguably wouldn’t be worth their value. It would likely include expiring contracts, Knox/Smith type talent, and draft picks. Maybe like the Butler trade, you can move up in 2020 draft? Based on current lottery odds that wouldn’t be much though with the Knicks but something to keep in mind if that opportunity were to better itself.

The Nets are a good example of a contending team. It goes without saying, but their better players are off limits. You know, the Durants and the Irvings. Contending teams will look to trade rotational level talent with upside. Caris LeVert? Spencer Dinwiddie? Jarret Allen? And most don’t have draft picks with high potential. Ideally turning rotational players into a more dynamic talent would be the ideal scenario for a contending team that lacks draft compensation.

What would a potential trade between both teams look like?

Chicago Trades: Zach Lavine,

Brooklyn Trades: Caris LeVert, Jarret Allen


Chicago Trades: Zach Lavine,

New York Knicks Trade: Bobby Portis(salary filler), Dennis Smith Jr, Kevin Knox, future lottery protected 1st

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I think either trade from an optics point of view, would not sell(though I like the Nets offer a lot if they could do that). And I don’t see a trade that would end up much different with another team than these in terms of value. The biggest issue is the Bulls are trading arguably their best asset to a team that won’t value Lavine the same way. And while perhaps there is one GM out there that does, the likely hood of that is slim. And maybe the optics shouldn’t matter, but would it be a trade that would turn the pressure up on the new Chicago Bulls front office right away. At least from the fans perspective. Especially if they kept a certain coach around over Lavine. Clearly the results moving forward would be all that would matter but until then a lot of fans will be frustratingly waiting. But I guess what’s new?


My One and Only Reason Bulls Trading for Melo Could Make Sense

Carmelo Anthony has made one thing clear this off-season, and that is he wants no part of coming off the bench. Melo during his exit interview said the following, “Yeah, I’m not sacrificing no bench role. So, that’s out of the question.” Anthony has an ETO for the 2018-19 season worth 27,928,140, which pretty much means he can opt out of his contract if he wants. But it’s widely believed Anthony wouldn’t risk losing most of his money, because there is a high possibility he doesn’t even come close to half of that in the 2018 free agent market. Reportedly if Melo is staying, OKC would ideally like to move Melo in a trade. Which could not only help their tax bill next season, but help save money and help them retain Paul George. But because Melo has a no trade clause and is making so much money next season, that will not be an easy task. But there is a scenario where Melo could make all his money, and still become a free agent. That’s where the Chicago Bulls come in.

Why would the Bulls want to trade for Melo? Well in most cases, they wouldn’t nor should. Melo on the decline and at this point of his career would probably do more harm than good for the young Bulls team. Also why would Melo even accept a trade to the Bulls? First let’s cover why the Bulls should consider trading for Melo. And it relies on one thing, the Thunder taking Cristiano Felicio.

The 4 years 32 million contract the Bulls gave Felicio last off-season was a mistake, and I’m sure they would admit that publicly if it made sense too. He has an average cap hit of 8,000,000 that hurts the Bulls cap space unnecessarily in the upcoming off-seasons, mainly because he produces at a below average level. If I was the Bulls I would give OKC a call and offer to take Carmelo Anthony off their hands if they are willing to take back Crisitiano Felicio and someone like Jerian Grant. A move like that for OKC would not only save them 17 million in team salary but could save even more in taxes next season. And would make it easier for them financially to justify keeping Paul George. But why would Melo agree to a trade to the Bulls?

Well there would be no intention on keeping Melo if you are the Bulls. You would waive Melo immediately and just eat the money, try to work a buy out first but not a big deal if he doesn’t agree. The idea is you are paying 27 million(Melo’s salary) now, to rid yourself of Felicio but mainly his cap hit in 2019-20 and 2020-21. The sell to Melo would be you still get your 27 million, but also get to go wherever you want via free agency. That would be why he would accept the trade to Chicago. The Bulls could also throw in Grant and Holiday(expiring contracts) if they wanted to ease some of the “dead” money they are creating by waiving Melo.

The trade itself would leave the Bulls with little cap space in 2018, but leave them with about 8 million more in 2019 and 2020 because they traded Felicio. Which arguably is when the Bulls were going to use space anyways because they should be a better more appealing team moving forward. Because of that I do believe trading for Melo could make sense for all 3 parties involved.